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Re: Patented Seeds Disclaimer for Seed Library Signage #seedpatents

Justine Hernandez
 

Would love to get Bill’s input ✊🏽

PCPL’s disclaimer borrow’s from the Richmond Grows disclaimer (thank you, Rebecca!). I thought it was the same one linked from CSN, but perhaps we accessed it directly from the Richmond Grows seed library starting page. Ours reads:

 Many seeds shared by the Seed Library were grown by community members with love and care like our ancestors have done for thousands of years, please know they may not meet state germination or labeling standards. We do not knowingly accept or share any seeds that are chemically treated, patented, or genetically modified.”

In community,

~justine

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Re: Patented Seeds Disclaimer for Seed Library Signage #seedpatents

Rebecca Newburn
 

Thanks for your questions ,and Justine, thanks for posting the signage resource. In the past the issues the commercial seed companies were concerned with was that we may not be sharing true-to-type seeds or seeds that meet minimum federal germination rates. The sign doesn't specifically mention sharing patented seeds. So you can add in a sentence about don't share any seeds that have a "PVP" on the label standing, which stands for Plant Variety Protection. You could add in a note that we want to respect the hard work of traditional plant breeders. I'm going to pass this on to Bill McDorman of Rocky Mountain Seed Alliance who has been working on this issue to see if he has any particular language to include. 

Peas and justice,
Rebecca

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:32 PM Christine Salem <jcsalem@...> wrote:
I am trying to locate the recommended/approved legalese for disclaimer signage at our Seed Library pertaining to unintentional illegal distribution of patented seeds. Thanks for helping to point me in the right direction.



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Re: Patented Seeds Disclaimer for Seed Library Signage #seedpatents

Justine
 

Hi Christine!

 

It’s linked from the Community Seed Network’s page: https://www.communityseednetwork.org/disclaimer-for-seed-libraries/

 

~Justine

 

Justine Hernandez, she/her | Librarian | Seed Library

Sam Lena South Tucson Library | 1607 S 6th Ave. Tucson AZ 85713

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I am trying to locate the recommended/approved legalese for disclaimer signage at our Seed Library pertaining to unintentional illegal distribution of patented seeds. Thanks for helping to point me in the right direction.


Patented Seeds Disclaimer for Seed Library Signage #seedpatents

Christine Salem
 

I am trying to locate the recommended/approved legalese for disclaimer signage at our Seed Library pertaining to unintentional illegal distribution of patented seeds. Thanks for helping to point me in the right direction.


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Ana Rizzo <rizzo.ana@...>
 

Hi everyone, as part of my master’s research project, I’m looking for respondents from all over the world to contribute a quick survey (about 4 minutes), where I ask you to answer information about your preference with regard to the outdoors climate.

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This project involves the Federal University of ABC, Federal University of Latin American Integration and Sapienza Università di Roma.

 Thanks very much


Re: Signage for Seed Libraries #education

kitty.bolte@...
 

Hey Rebecca! I really like this and think it is a great resource! One thing I would note is that in my experience, many spanish speakers in CA use "betabel" for "beet", not "remolancha". 


Re: Signage for Seed Libraries #education

kitty.bolte@...
 

also, this is not editable/filterable but I do like how the sacramento master gardeners differentiate between optimal times for direct sowing vs sowing indoors vs transplanting: https://ucanr.edu/sites/sacmg/files/117117.pdf


Signage for Seed Libraries #education

SeedLibraries.net
 

Dear Seedbrarians,

I hope this email finds you well. For some time, I have wanted to put up a list of what to plant now that informs borrowers of what is most appropriate to plant now. We do have posted the San Francisco Bay Area yearlong planting guide that was developed by BASIL, the first seed library, well over 15 years ago. However, I wanted to have a table and also have it translated into Spanish. A little while ago, we developed a spreadsheet with planting times for the SF Bay Area. This helped us a lot during the initial part of the pandemic as we were only making seeds that could be planted at that time available. 

Today I decided to dedicate some time to creating some signage that we could post every 2 months with the list. It's nothing fancy and maybe I'll have someone go back and do some work to make them more attractive. The other thing that I did was I created a repeating calendar event (every 2 months) that had all of the handouts linked in it. That way we'll remember to switch the signs and not have to hunt for them. I shared the invite with the other dozen seed libraries in our county so if other folks want an easy way to inform borrowers, the work is done for them. Here's a sample for June - Sept.

Another option is to do a sheet with the entire year, such as the wheel above. Here is a planting handout that BASIL now uses.

I would love to hear what other folks are doing.  Please share files or images. Thanks!

Peas and justice,

Rebecca
Richmond Grows Seed Lending Library
Richmond, California


Re: Uncertain donations #GettingSeeds #IncreasingReturns

Klump, Holly
 

Regarding an alternative format to the swap this year:


We have not started a seed library YET (I joined this group in preparation for!) but we have been holding a seed swap for the past 5+ years, except last year. Generally we do a presenter on a gardening type topic, then a seed swap after. This year we are going to do a virtual presenter, then sandwich the days before/after with a seed swap so it is more spaced out. It will be more work on our part since we will do a lot more sorting and putting things in coin envelopes ourselves to avoid extra touching of seed packets (in past years we have the coin envelopes out but participants just kind of have at it, taking what they need themselves) but it will be a way to space out the swap, since we usually have quite a few people. I think we will have people register for time slots, or a certain day, but we are lucky in that we have the space to do that. So our seed swap event will be more of like, a seed swap week!


Holly Klump

Nashua Public Library

603-589-4633

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Subject: Re: [seedlibraries] Uncertain donations

The first thing that comes to my mind is to use the mystery seeds in a seed swap "as is" (you could give them a funny category name like "Seeds of Adventure", or something). Pre-covid we have always had our "Seedy Saturday" the last weekend in January. Of course that didn't happen last year, and may not happen this coming January either depending on what the group gatherings protocol is by then.

I have been trying to think of alternative formats to host seed exchanges, but haven't come up with any ideas yet. If we had the space it might be nice to have a longer version -- maybe a week or two instead of all in one afternoon, that way people could participate without bunching up. It might be more difficult to keep the area clean and organized though. At our regular seed swaps I always have volunteers and master gardeners in attendance to keep it fun, informative, and organized.

I agree with you that it always seems like such a shame to "weed" our seed selection. This fall I had just a few carrot seeds that have been here since 2017 and, rather than tossing them in the trash, I planted them in a large pot on my patio. I didn't expect much to happen, but the pot is now full of carrots... go figure!

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Sandy Public Library
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Re: Uncertain donations #GettingSeeds #IncreasingReturns

EBo
 

I missed the original post, so I do not know if the uncertain seeds are unknown species, known species of unknown origin, or simply out of date. Speaking for myself, we have a seed basket at the house which, last I looked, has seeds in it some older than 10 years. Sometimes we plant the really old seed just to use it up. This year we came across some old carrot seeds, and they were planted in a spot in the winter garden to see if they would come up, and low and behold most of them did. If there were seeds in date and of known species, but of unknown origin, I would probably trust them if you generally trust the people you get seeds from. If the seeds are of unknown species I would throw them out. Who knows, someone might have given you a packet of pretty flowers and in it is wisteria! I do not know about you, but some pretty plants are not worth having around if you know what I mean, and if you do now picture a 100' tree being pulled down by wisteria vines that are as thick as your fist. I have them on a derelict farm I purchased a few years back, and yes they really are that big and killing trees.

On Nov 21 2021 2:47 PM, Sara McCamant wrote:
Hi
I would save all the packets that are 2018 and on. I would either dump the
rest or create an area that is a no guarantee, old seed space and people
can choose to take them if they want.
Random seed with out dates we toss.
Sara


Re: Uncertain donations #GettingSeeds #IncreasingReturns

Sara McCamant
 

Hi 
I would save all the packets that are 2018 and on.  I would either dump the rest or create an area that is a no guarantee, old seed space and people can choose to take them if they want.  
Random seed with out dates we toss.  
Sara


Re: Uncertain donations #GettingSeeds #IncreasingReturns

Susie Jenkins
 

The first thing that comes to my mind is to use the mystery seeds in a seed swap "as is" (you could give them a funny category name like "Seeds of Adventure", or something).   Pre-covid we have always had our "Seedy Saturday" the last weekend in January. Of course that didn't happen last year, and may not happen this coming January either depending on what the group gatherings protocol is by then.

I have been trying to think of alternative formats to host seed exchanges, but haven't come up with any ideas yet.  If we had the space it might be nice to have a longer version -- maybe a week or two instead of all in one afternoon, that way people could participate without bunching up.  It might be more difficult to keep the area clean and organized though.  At our regular seed swaps I always have volunteers and master gardeners in attendance to keep it fun, informative, and organized. 

I agree with you that it always seems like such a shame to "weed" our seed selection.  This fall I had just a few carrot seeds that have been here since 2017 and, rather than tossing them in the trash, I planted them in a large pot on my patio. I didn't expect much to happen, but the pot is now full of carrots... go figure!

--

Susie Jenkins
Adult Programming
Sandy Public Library
38980 Proctor Blvd., Sandy OR 97055
503-668-5537

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Uncertain donations #GettingSeeds #IncreasingReturns

nbaxter@...
 

Hello fellow seed librarians! I have a situation that I would love some advice on.

I am in the extremely fortunate position of having active support from a very large local gardening group. This helps tremendously with getting the word out and getting donations in. Occasionally I'll get a huge donation of questionable seeds and the idea of throwing everything out because I just don't have the time to sort, search, and germ test everything is heartbreaking. I'd give the task to volunteers but we haven't restarted our volunteer program. I know many of these are past their viability window but I also know if they were stored properly there could still be a lot worth saving in here. I'd take some of these home to try growing them myself but my yard isn't big enough. I know if I just had a very clear donation policy and stuck with it I wouldn't have this mess. I also wouldn't have connected with a few of our more quirky and unique seed savers in the community though so I have to say it's usually worth the trade off.

To give you an idea of what I'm working with: Coin packs of Iron Clay Cowpea, no date, handwritten grow information. More coin packs just labeled Ironweed. Southern Exposure Seed Exchange packets from 2006-2009. Mary's Heirloom Seeds from 2019. Baker Creek Heirloom from 2010, 2019, 2021. Labeled coin packs from a local nonprofit from 2016-present. Burpee and Seeds of Change and Johnny's Selected Seeds and so much more.

So my question: How would you approach giant ziplock bags of random seed donations of all varieties, years, and sources? Would you toss the whole batch? Presort? If you sorted, what would your criteria be for keep/test/toss?

Thank you!


Re: Job Posting - Core Leadership Coordinator #CheckoutProcedures #class #classes #ClimateResilience #communitymeeting

kmlundin649@...
 

Hello, 

I am interesting in looking at this job description, but the file will not open. It says it is invalid. I am not sure if it is my computer, or the file. 

Thanks!

Kara  


Re: #seeds #Database #beginnerbundles #NewSeedLibrary #beginnerbundles #NewSeedLibrary #seeds #Database

Mike Riesterer
 

Hi, Lauren:  I'm glad you found some useful things from what I shared. As you suggested, it's an organic process how each community of people sets up and manages their seed library. There's also a synergistic aspect between seed swaps and a seed library if you ever want to hear about that. Just let me know !

Thanks.

Michael Riesterer

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On Thursday, October 21st, 2021 at 7:06 AM, Lauren Muscatine <laurenmuscatine@...> wrote:
Hi Mike,

Wow, thanks for all the info and the link to your presentation! I have a Google address and drive account for the seed library with many of the same types of files in it. I have not found anything other than this platform to build upon. I share the pertinent files with each seed librarian (there are now three of us). I am getting from you and Rebecca that the seed library component, even while housed inside the public library, is independent from library management. That probably works well on both sides of the collaboration. I do have some dedicated volunteers beyond the seed librarians who oversee the cabinets. Thank you for sharing the date of your seed swap; I've been looking into that kind of event, but haven't convened one yet. Maybe in 2022. Thanks for your presentation and contact email! I'll be in touch with any more questions... but this is a thorough start. I love how everyone's story is unique, the operation fits the need, and the mission is simple and driven!

Warmly,
Lauren 


Job Posting - Core Leadership Coordinator #CheckoutProcedures #class #classes #ClimateResilience #communitymeeting

frances craik
 

Rocky Mountain Seed Alliance is looking for a Core Leadership Coordinator to join our team. Please see job posting attached :)


Re: #seeds #Database #beginnerbundles #NewSeedLibrary #beginnerbundles #NewSeedLibrary #seeds #Database

Lauren Muscatine
 

Hi Mike,

Wow, thanks for all the info and the link to your presentation! I have a Google address and drive account for the seed library with many of the same types of files in it. I have not found anything other than this platform to build upon. I share the pertinent files with each seed librarian (there are now three of us). I am getting from you and Rebecca that the seed library component, even while housed inside the public library, is independent from library management. That probably works well on both sides of the collaboration. I do have some dedicated volunteers beyond the seed librarians who oversee the cabinets. Thank you for sharing the date of your seed swap; I've been looking into that kind of event, but haven't convened one yet. Maybe in 2022. Thanks for your presentation and contact email! I'll be in touch with any more questions... but this is a thorough start. I love how everyone's story is unique, the operation fits the need, and the mission is simple and driven!

Warmly,
Lauren 


Re: #seeds #Database #beginnerbundles #NewSeedLibrary #beginnerbundles #NewSeedLibrary #seeds #Database

Lauren Muscatine
 

Hi Rebecca,
Thank you for your reply. Luckily there is one dedicated staff person who is in charge of the collection! I'm so glad to hear that you don't do any inventories! Whew! Great to know: jars, signage, envelopes. We need more robust signage, but have the other two. I can make up preprinted labels. Do you have a template at the RGSLL website that I can use for starters?
Thanks again,
Lauren


Re: #seeds #Database #beginnerbundles #NewSeedLibrary #beginnerbundles #NewSeedLibrary #seeds #Database

Mike Riesterer
 

Hi, Lauren:  Me in blue below:

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On Thursday, October 7th, 2021 at 1:11 PM, Napa County Seed Library <laurenmuscatine@...> wrote:

Could you help me with some advice on a couple of questions from those of you who are familiar with operating seed libraries located inside a public library?

1. What kind of beginner bundle is useful to provide to get Leslie started? What would it include  to make it useful and easy for her to manage? I'm thinking of things like envelopes, jars, (seeds of course), list of seeds seasonally sown in our growing zone, our annual activities, social media and contact information (for tracking our public events and announcements). What am I missing? At the Queen City Seed Library in Marquette, Michigan (started in 2016) we started by utilizing the various tools that google offers, e.g., a gmail address for the seed library, "sheets" for budget stuff, "forms" for surveys and questionnaires, "docs" for labels, forms and press releases and "contacts" as a database of our seed library patrons. If there was a free and versatile suite of tools, I'd use that instead of google. Know of any? So that's one aspect of seed library operation; the tech stuff. And if you have a core group of people who work with you, it's easy, then, for more than one person to have access to files.

2. What kind of inventory or cataloging do librarians do for seeds when they are managing a seed library among their collections? Is this necessary? How detailed should the record keeping be and for what purposes (e.g., rates of return or borrowing, sees on hand, year-end activity data)? Also, is this necessary or is something less elaborate sufficient for the library staff to be concerned with? We're independent from official library staff. But we run the whole operation pretty loose with volunteers. In other words, our main interest is generating locally adapted seeds for growing food. We have very experienced in our volunteer "work group" for technical details and we run seed saving workshops and provide expert advice, but we don't impose stringent requirements with our local community. We're happy if seed library patrons return seeds either at our drop off basket or at our annual seed swap (our 8th seed swap (the last two online) is March 26, 2020).

3. What kind of ongoing support should I give to the library as the nonprofit organizer of a network of seed libraries for Napa County? And, what kind of resources does the library already have that I don't need to provide to keep the seed library vital?

Here's a link to a presentation I did a few years back that resulted in a person in the audience starting a seed library at her public library and she said the presentation answered most of her startup questions:   https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1an-jTDf_pUoAb2SvmyE3BS4KB-PBDncIOOURpzyKw-k/edit?usp=sharing

Send additional questions to queencityseedlibrary@....

Michael Riesterer


Of course I'll be discussing these topics with Leslie going forward, but I wanted to check here first!

Thank you for your advice and encouragement,
Lauren
President and Co-Founder, Napa County Seed Library
www.napacoseedlibrary.com


Re: #seeds #Database #beginnerbundles #NewSeedLibrary #beginnerbundles #NewSeedLibrary #seeds #Database

SeedLibraries.net
 

Hi Lauren,

Congratulations on opening your third branch. How exciting!

We're in a public library but since our library is understaffed, we had told the library director that we just needed space and would not put any burdens on their staff. So I can't speak to some of your questions.

We don't do any inventorying of seeds. It's a lot of time and we have a self-serve system that is not connected to the public library car system so tracking or cataloging isn't required. In the library, our seeds are mostly in jars so envelopes are provided and signage. Signage. Signage. Signage. I like putting labels inside of jars so folks can grab pre-printed labels with more detailed information, especially for rare and unusual plants. It's our regular envelop label that we normally stamp on, but it is printed out with the information on. 6 labels fit on 1 page. I have a good paper cutter so it goes pretty quickly. One goes on the outside of the jar and the rest go inside. 

Peas and justice,
Rebecca

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